SPG: no it isnt
lugiaisbeast101: Please explain why? There's flaws to it but I'd say it's good for approval.
SPG: There's flaws to it you answered your own question
This came from the Model Feedback subforum, in Machoke's thread. I couldn't quote it properly because I'm only allowed to embed 3 quotes within each other.
I have a problem with things like this. I see them happening all over the site by a few of the moderators, and I can't imagine that I'm the only one irritated by these happenings.
My problem is this: A few of the moderators seem to always attempt to project this huge negativity, and I would almost call it condescension, on people when they're discussing a model. I really only see it happen in the Model Feedback and Trainer subforums, but then again those are the subforums I frequent the most.
If you read earlier in the thread, you'll see that SPG mentions that the dog ears are bothering him, and so the OP says that he sees them too, and he'll fix them. Now, there were a few more comments made from random people about how good the model is, and then the quoted posts came into play.
Now, I understand that it may not be normal users' place to say things like "this looks good for approval, post a poll", but certainly there must be a better way to deal with people like this than being an outright douche about it. ESPECIALLY considering that lugiaisbeast101 asked for an explanation, and all he got was smartassery and negativity in response.
This is exactly how Skibb was treating Karrybird in the Snivy thread, which I why I was so vocal about it. Moderators that act like they're top of the food chain and everyone else should kiss their feet make the experience on the forum bad for everyone, because with enough of the negativity from your moderators, people will become less and less motivated to post and contribute. It also doesn't help foster a positive relationship with the community.
To me, it seems like every time the moderators post something negative in a model's thread, they're suggesting that it is the sole things that THEY dislike that are keeping the model from being good to go. Which is fine, of course, if that's the same thing everyone else is saying. Maybe it's just me feeling the vibe, but I get the sense that unless Skibb or SPG deems the model absolutely 100% perfect, the model has no way of getting in the mod, even if everyone else loves it. Which, in my opinion, is total crap. As far as I was aware, this forum was a place for everyone to come together and enjoy creations and give constructive feedback on them, not a place where two moderators (that aren't even the moderators of the Model Feedback subforum) place themselves above everyone else on the totem pole. I get that there need to be certain positions of power within this place, because the community is pretty big and there are trolls all over the Internet, but at the end of the day, I don't believe it's okay that they get to tell people that a model isn't okay because of something that they specifically don't like.
I just wanted to bring this to everyone's attention because it's one of the big reasons I don't try to contribute anything. It's not worth me working hard to learn how to use a program, make something with the program, then watch as my submission isn't approved because the moderators aren't satisfied with my submission, or some other ham-headed reasoning that they come up with.
I hope everyone understands what I mean by all of this, and I look forward to your discussion.