- 06 May 2016 04:04
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Tyceus wrote:Torterra is actually grass/ground, not rock as Some Body described. Anyway, I would consider getting a Closyter. If my memory is clear, you're able to outspeed if you get a shell smash off. You could then proceed to using ice shard, or icicle spear. (Forgive me if names are wrong) You could also consider putting a focus sash on it.
Adding onto the Leafeon quick attack. You should outspeed it with Ice Shard at +2 if it uses quick attack. It might not kill, but it'll certainly do something.
Good luck in your gym battles!
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He didn't describe Torterra as a Rock type.
Leafeon will rarely run Quick Attack in a competitive scenario and it seems this gym leader has at least some grasp of competitive gameplay. Quick Attack is simply too weak to give up a better coverage move for, and coverage is already something Leafeon has problems with. Furthermore, Chlorophyll coupled Leafeon's great Defense stat means that running priority on it is generally unnecessary.
Sash Cloyster would work somewhat but loses if Whimsicott is carrying Stun Spore, Encore, or predicts your Shell Smash and Taunts you. It also wins if it Tailwinds and then breaks your sash, allowing Venusaur or Leafeon to outspeed you with a full investment. It is by no means a hard counter or even a reliable check, but it's something.
Life Orb Gengar gives all these Pokemon trouble and can set up a Substitute while Whimsicott Tailwinds in order to protect it from Leech Seed and possible Stun Spores, but has to be careful while doing so in fear of Encore. It can also run Taunt, which assuming Whimsicott doesn't Taunt you first allows you to prevent it from doing anything other than using a single status move. You could alternatively go straight for the Sludge Bomb, which has a 30% chance of shutting Whimsicott down through its Focus Sash thanks to its chance to Poison. Venusaur and Torterra avoid the OHKO from Gengar but neither can OHKO it in return, and if it's behind a Substitute it's guaranteed to beat either one. Exeggutor and Leafeon are both OHKO'd by Sludge Bomb.
Either way, remember that gym leaders are usually limited to a single type of Pokemon while you have no such restrictions, which automatically gives you a massive advantage.
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